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I_WMRC_2023A 09/19/2023 09:14:06 AM Committee Summary

PUBLIC
STAFF SUMMARY OF MEETING
INTERIM COMMITTEE  WILDFIRE MATTERS REVIEW COMMITTEE
Date 09/19/2023
Attendance
Story X
Ginal X
Jaquez Lewis X
Lynch X
Simpson E
Snyder X
Weinberg X
Will X
Velasco X
Cutter X
Time 09:14:06 AM to 02:48:16 PM
Place Old State Library
This Meeting was called to order by Cutter
This Report was prepared by Adam Alemzada
Hearing Items Action Taken
Colorado Division of Insurance Presentation Committee Discussion Only
Insurance Institute for Business & Home Safety Presentation Committee Discussion Only
Colorado State Forest Service Update on SB22-007 Committee Discussion Only
Colorado State Fire Chiefs Presentation Committee Discussion Only
Public Testimony Committee Discussion Only
Lunch/Break Committee Discussion Only
Draft Bill Selection Committee Discussion Only

09:14:08 AM
Senator Cutter, Chair, gave opening remarks.



Colorado Division of Insurance Presentation - Committee Discussion Only


09:14:39 AM  
Commissioner Mike
Conway, Division of Insurance, Department of Regulatory Agencies, gave
a presentation on the insurance availability issues being caused by wildfires.
He discussed which areas of the state have the highest wildfire risk and
how those areas are impacted the most by insurance availability issues.
He also discussed how hail has an effect on the profitability of insurance
providers in the state.



Their presentation can be found here:
https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/images/division_of_insurance_presentation.pdf
09:21:30 AM  
Commissioner Conway responded to questions from the committee on the decline of insurance policies being written. He discussed how both the affordability and availability of insurance have played a role in this decline.
09:25:57 AM  
Commissioner Conway
gave an update on the Fair Access to Insurance Requirements (FAIR) plan,
which was created by the passage of House Bill 23-1288. He explained that
the FAIR plan is intended to serve as the insurer of last resort in Colorado
and was made to solve the problem of availability, not affordability.
09:28:19 AM  
Commissioner Conway responded to questions from the committee on the existence of FAIR plans in other states and how they influenced Colorado's FAIR plan. He explained that there around 32 other states with FAIR plans and that Colorado has been looking into what is and is not working in those states.
09:33:41 AM  
Commissioner Conway gave an update on House Bill 23-1174, which provide funding to evaluate policies addressing homeowners insurance affordability. He explained that this evaluation is underway and discussed the potential of using a parametric insurance policy to address affordability.
09:40:42 AM  
Commissioner Conway responded to questions from the committee on the level of experience that insurance companies in the United States have with parametric insurance policies.
09:45:04 AM  
Commissioner Conway
discussed how annual wildfire mitigation measures could help address insurance
availability issues and how hail mitigation measures could help address
insurance affordability issues.
09:47:33 AM  
Commissioner Conway
responded to questions from the committee on the merits of a statewide
standard for hail mitigation measures, such as roof hardening. He explained
that compelling people to prusue mitigation measures is important but insurance
availbility is still the priority.



Insurance Institute for Business & Home Safety Presentation - Committee Discussion Only


10:05:49 AM  
Carole Walker, Executive
Director, Rocky Mountain Insurance Association (RMIA), introduced the RMIA
and explained how the organization represents many of the insurance providers
in Colorado. She gave a presentation on the insurance availability and
affordability issues from the perspective of insurance companies.



Their presentation can be found here:
https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/images/rmia_presentation.pdf
10:10:11 AM  
Director Walker discussed
the increase in natural disasters across the nation and how consequently,
the amount that insurance companies have paid out increased to record highs.
She explained that Colorado has had the second highest increase in the
occurence of natural disasters and the impact that has had on re-insurance
costs.
10:19:33 AM  
Director Walker responded to questions from the committee on the efficacy of mandating insurance discounts for homeowners who have pursued mitigation efforts. She explained that a mandate would cause more uncertainty, which could dissuade insurance companies from providing coverage in the state.
10:22:34 AM  
Dr. Ian Giammanco,
Managing Director of Standards and Data Analytics, Insurance Institute
for Business & Home Safety, gave a presentation on the organization
and discussed their goal to test the effectiveness of potential mitigation
efforts for wildfires and other natural disasters.



Their presentation can be found here:
https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/images/bending_down_wildfire_risk.pdf
10:29:11 AM  
Dr. Giammanco discussed
the conditions that create a high wildfire risk and how mitigation efforts
differ depending on the environment. He also discussed the critical actions
for wildfire mitigation, which include a Class A fire-rated roof and defensible
space.
10:44:01 AM  
Dr. Giammanco discussed the need to find ways to nudge people implement wildfire mitigation measures in their homes due to the risk that a single unprepared home can pose to the rest of the community during a fire. He explained that incentives alone will not work.
10:46:55 AM  
Director Walker and Dr. Giammanco responded to questions from the committee on the practices to persuade individuals to pursue wildfire mitigation that have worked the best in other communities. Dr. Giammanco used communities from Mobile, Alabama as a good example of an area that bent down the extreme weather risks facing their community and described the grant program and local code changes used there.
10:56:30 AM  
Director Walker responded
to questions from the committee on the merits of legislation aimed at homeowners'
associations (HOAs) and the need for insurance providers to give incentives
to homeowners for mitigation efforts.



Colorado State Forest Service Update on SB22-007 - Committee Discussion Only


11:06:13 AM  
Teddy Parker-Renga,
Associate Director of Communications and Communities, Colorado State Forest
Service (CSFS), gave an update on the programs mandated by Senate Bill
22-007.



Their presentation can be found here:
https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/default/files/images/live_wildfire_ready_2023_interim_report_-_wmrc.pdf
11:10:00 AM  
Mr. Parker-Renga
explained that one of the main goals of the program is to create outreach
materials to raise awareness of wildfire risks and explain the merits of
mitigation efforts. He informed the committee that the CSFS hired the marketing
firm 160/90 to help develop these outreach materials.
11:19:18 AM  
Mr. Parker-Renga discussed the implementation of the awareness campaign, which has included digital ads and in-person outreach.
11:38:07 AM  
Mr. Parker-Renga discussed the program's plan for 2024, which include evaluating the awareness campaign and gathering recommendations.
11:40:05 AM  
Mr. Parker-Renga responded to questions from the committee on how the CSFS is measuring the impact of the awareness campaign.



Colorado State Fire Chiefs Presentation - Committee Discussion Only


11:48:08 AM  
Garry Briesse, Executive Director, Colorado State Fire Chiefs (CSFC), introduced himself and testified on the need for more funding for local fire districts. He distributed a handout to the committee (Attachment A).
11:54:32 AM  
Director Briesse responded to questions from the committee on what type of cost is required to fund local fire districts and the reasons why using local taxes to supplement local fire district is not feasible.



Public Testimony - Committee Discussion Only


12:00:01 PM  
Dana Duggan, representing
Westside Watch, testified on the need for more evacuation modeling to identify
choke points in widlfire readiness plans.



Lunch/Break - Committee Discussion Only


12:03:35 PM  
The committee broke for lunch.
12:50:13 PM  
The committee reconvened.



Draft Bill Selection - Committee Discussion Only


12:50:34 PM  
Samantha Falco, Legislative Council Staff, discussed the bill draft process.
12:51:14 PM  
Senator Cutter explained
her bill idea regarding a comprehensive study of biochar. Representative
Snyder explained his bill idea to establish pet-friendly shelters after
wildfires. Committee discussion ensued.
12:56:45 PM  
Representative Velasco
explained her bill ideas to expand state-funded health care trusts for
first responders, conserving representation for tribal and disabled communities
in advisory boards and task forces, collaboration between all levels of
government in mitigation efforts, resiliency in mobile home parks, sales
tax for lumber yards, including nongovernmental organizations in mitigation
efforts and having more collaboration with them, and extra support for
rural communities navigating grant programs.

12:59:53 PM  
Senator Jaquez-Lewis explained her bill idea to revise building codes to include more hail damage mitigation guidelines. Committee discussion ensued.
01:02:19 PM  
Senator Will explained his bill idea to expand the Heart and Cancer Benefits Trust to include volunteer firefighters.
01:04:15 PM  
Senator Cutter explained
her bill idea for a slash-day pilot program and a tax credit for homeowners
who pursue wildfire mitigation on their homes. Representative Snyder explained
his bill idea for a standard debris removal program after wildfires and
recommended adding it to Senator Cutter's bill idea.
01:06:53 PM  
Senator Cutter explained
her bill idea to create standards for wildfire and forestry management
that prevent harmful strategies. Committee discussion ensued.
01:09:59 PM  
Representative Lynch
explained his bill idea for a pilot program to place more wildfire cameras.
He also explained his bill idea for creating incentives to promote the
timber industry.
01:14:24 PM  
Senator Jaquez-Lewis
explained her bill idea to require that any structural and landscaping
guidelines mandated by HOAs be compliant with wildfire safe standards.
01:16:21 PM  
Senator Cutter explained
her bill idea to continue funding Senate Bill 22-007. Committee discussion
ensued.
01:24:00 PM  
The committee discussed the proposed bill ideas. They decided which ones can be combined and which will be withdrawn.
01:27:23 PM  
The committee recessed.
01:35:30 PM  
The committee reconvened.
01:36:50 PM  
Representative Story
was appointed to replace Representative Dickson for the remainder of the
hearing.
01:36:52 PM  
The committee continued discussion on their bill concepts.
01:37:14 PM  
Jason Gelender, Office of Legislative Legal Services, explained some requirements for the bills proposals.


02:14:37 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to fund a comprehensive study on biochar.
Moved Cutter
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch No
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg No
Will Yes
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 6   NO: 2   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS


02:17:18 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to mandate shelters to provide pet-friendly options.
Moved Snyder
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch No
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg No
Will No
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 5   NO: 3   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL


02:19:32 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to fund a state program for first responders through multiple employee benefit trusts and the Firefighter Heart and Cancer Trust.
Moved Will
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch Yes
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg Yes
Will Yes
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 8   NO: 0   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS


02:20:52 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to conserve representation for the tribal and disability community on advisory boards and task forces.
Moved Velasco
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch No
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg No
Will No
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 5   NO: 3   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL


02:22:46 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to create incentives for collaboration between federal, state, and local fire mitigation efforts and to include nongovernmental organizations in fire-wise information.
Moved Velasco
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch No
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg No
Will Yes
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 6   NO: 2   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS


02:23:51 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to bolster the wildfire resiliency of mobile home parks.
Moved Cutter
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch No
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg No
Will No
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 5   NO: 3   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL


02:25:20 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to give extra support for rural counties that are navigating grant programs for wildfire mitigation.
Moved Will
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch Yes
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg Yes
Will Yes
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 8   NO: 0   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS


02:26:13 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to provide help for individual homeowners through a pilot program on slash days, tax credits for homeowners' mitigation efforts, and a standard debris removal program.
Moved Cutter
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch Yes
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg Yes
Will Yes
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 8   NO: 0   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS


02:28:43 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to have the Colorado State Forest Service develop standards for wildfire mitigation and forestry management projects.
Moved Weinberg
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch Yes
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg Yes
Will Yes
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 8   NO: 0   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS


02:29:56 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to develop a pilot program for wildfire cameras.
Moved Lynch
Seconded
Story No
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis No
Lynch Yes
Simpson Excused
Snyder No
Weinberg Yes
Will Yes
Velasco No
Cutter No
YES: 3   NO: 5   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL


02:31:01 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to create incentives that promote the timber industry.
Moved Lynch
Seconded
Story No
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis No
Lynch Yes
Simpson Excused
Snyder No
Weinberg Yes
Will Yes
Velasco No
Cutter No
YES: 3   NO: 5   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL


02:31:53 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill that regulates the sales tax for lumber yards.
Moved Velasco
Seconded
Story No
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis No
Lynch No
Simpson Excused
Snyder No
Weinberg No
Will No
Velasco Yes
Cutter No
YES: 1   NO: 7   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL


02:32:52 PM
Motion Move the committee draft a bill to continue funding for the outreach program created by Senate Bill 22-007.
Moved Cutter
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch No
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg No
Will No
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 5   NO: 3   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL
02:34:12 PM  
The committee discussed the results of the voting.
02:36:20 PM  
The committee recessed.
02:38:22 PM  
The committee reconvened.


02:39:22 PM
Motion Move the committee reconsider the drafting of a bill on mandating shelters to provide pet-friendly options.
Moved Snyder
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch Yes
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg No
Will Yes
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 7   NO: 1   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS


02:40:25 PM
Motion Move the committee reconsider the drafting of a bill on creating incentives that promote the timber industry.
Moved Lynch
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch Yes
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg Yes
Will Yes
Velasco No
Cutter Yes
YES: 7   NO: 1   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS


02:41:20 PM
Motion Move the committee reconsider the drafting of a bill to continue funding for the outreach program created by Senate Bill 22-007.
Moved Cutter
Seconded
Story Yes
Ginal Excused
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Lynch Yes
Simpson Excused
Snyder Yes
Weinberg No
Will Yes
Velasco Yes
Cutter Yes
YES: 7   NO: 1   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS
02:41:22 PM  
Ms. Falco summarized the bill drafts that passed.
02:43:03 PM  
The committee discussed designated contacts for each of the bill drafts with Mr. Gelender.



02:47:00 PM
The committee discussed a future meeting on November 1, 2023 to take a final vote on bill drafts.



02:47:38 PM
The committee adjourned.


02:48:16 PM   The committee adjourned.