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A0537A874DA3DC6D87258C4300824CA1 Hearing Summary




PUBLIC
BILL SUMMARY For HB25-1212

HOUSE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
Date Mar 4, 2025      
Location HCR 0107



HB25-1212 - Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole

04:43:15 PM  
Representatives Soper
and Rutinel, prime sponsors, presented House Bill 25-1212. The bill prohibits
developers of artificial intelligence models from  retaliating against
workers, and requires developers to adopt certain policies and procedures.
Representative Rutinel explained the effect of the bill and discussed its
need. Representative Soper provided additional input on the merits of the
bill. Discussion ensued regarding efforts at the federal level similar
to HB 25-1212, and what constitutes a software developer under the bill.
Discussion followed regarding certain thresholds in the bill. Discussion
turned to the amendments to narrow the scope of the bill.





Committee members asked questions about definitions in the bill and SB
24-205. Further questions were raised about current whistleblower protections.
Punitive damages were also discussed. Representative Soper responded to
questions regarding the ramifications of being the first state to pass
legislation in this subject area.

05:16:08 PM  
John Bliss, representing
themself, testified in support of the bill. Dr. Scott Wisor, representing
themself, testified in support of the bill. Mr. Nathan Calvin, representing
Encode, testified in support of the bill. Dr. Benjamin Xie, representing
themself, testified in support of the bill. Dr. Nikhil Krishnaswamy, representing
themself, testified in support of the bill. Jennifer Gibson, representing
Psst, testified in support of the bill.





Discussion ensued regarding the need for whistleblowers in the technology
sector, and risks associated with artificial intelligence. Discussion followed
regarding the potential benefits of expanding the bill's whistleblower
protections, and the types of concerns brought forth by whistleblowers.

06:00:23 PM  
Melanie Layton, representing
TechNet and the Colorado Bankers Association, testified in opposition to
HB 25-1212. Rachel Beck, representing Colorado Competitive Council, testified
in opposition to the bill. Michael McReynolds, representing Governor's
Office of Information Technology, testified in opposition to the bill.
Meghan Dollar, representing Colorado Chamber of Commerce, testified in
opposition to the bill.




Mr. McReynolds responded to questions regarding whistleblower protections
under current law. Discussion ensued regarding the potential impact of
the bill on industry, and which executive department or at what level of
government should address whistleblower protections for artificial intelligence.
Discussion followed regarding certain definitions in the bill and other
artificial intelligence-related legislation.
06:31:46 PM  
Drea Modugno, representing the Denver Metro Chamber of Commerce, testified in opposition to HB 25-1212.
06:35:10 PM  
Fatima Fernandez,
representing Harmony Initiative, testified in opposition to the bill.




Written testimony
may be found in Attachment B.
06:38:39 PM  
Mr. Henry Wu, representing
themself, testified in support of the bill. Michelle Nie, representing
themself, testified in support of the bill. Poppy Alexander, representing
Whistleblower Partners LLP, testified in support of the bill. Adam Billen,
representing Encode, testified in support of the bill. Ms. Madeline Freeman,
representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

06:54:13 PM  
Representative Soper
explained the effect of amendment L.003 (Attachment C).  Representative
Rutinel responded to questions regarding hypothetical scenarios surrounding
the amendment. Discussion ensued on such a scenario.



07:15:11 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.003
Moved Soper
Seconded Bacon
Armagost
Bacon
Clifford
DeGraaf
Espenoza
Garcia
Keltie
Soper
Zokaie
Carter
Mabrey
YES: 0   NO: 0   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  Withdrawn
07:16:37 PM  
Representative Soper
explained the effect of amendment L.002 (Attachment D).  Discussion
ensued.


07:28:48 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.002
Moved Soper
Seconded Bacon
Armagost No
Bacon No
Clifford Yes
DeGraaf Excused
Espenoza Yes
Garcia No
Keltie Excused
Soper Yes
Zokaie No
Carter Yes
Mabrey Yes
YES: 5   NO: 4   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS
07:28:50 PM  
Representative Rutinel
explained the effect of amendment L.007 (Attachment E).  Discussion
ensued regarding its effect.


07:36:40 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.007
Moved Soper
Seconded Bacon
Armagost
Bacon
Clifford
DeGraaf Excused
Espenoza
Garcia
Keltie Excused
Soper
Zokaie
Carter
Mabrey
YES: 0   NO: 0   EXC: 2   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  Pass Without Objection
07:36:42 PM  
Representatives Rutinel
and Soper provided closing remarks in support of HB 25-1212. Committee
members provided their positions on the bill.


07:53:10 PM
Motion Refer House Bill 25-1212, as amended, to the Committee of the Whole.
Moved Soper
Seconded Bacon
Armagost No
Bacon Yes
Clifford Yes
DeGraaf No
Espenoza No
Garcia Yes
Keltie Excused
Soper Yes
Zokaie Yes
Carter Yes
Mabrey Yes
Final YES: 7   NO: 3   EXC: 1   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS