Senator Todd invited the next group of presenters to the table. Matthew McClain, Executive Director, Colorado School Counselor Association, Karen Smith, President of the Colorado School Counselor Association, and Dr. Franci Crepeau-Hobson, Board Member of the Colorado Society of School Psychologists, came to the table. They distributed two handouts to the committee (Attachments C and D). Mr. McClain spoke about his experience as a school counselor in rural Colorado. Ms. Smith spoke about her experiences as a counselor in a metropolitan area school district. Mr. McClain and Ms. Smith answered questions from the committee.