H_SA_2016A 03/07/2016 Committee Summary
Final
STAFF SUMMARY OF MEETING
HOUSE COMMITTEE ON STATE, VETERANS, & MILITARY AFFAIRS
| Date: | 03/07/2016 |
ATTENDANCE
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| Time: | 01:32 PM to 08:51 PM |
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Humphrey
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| Place: | RM 271 |
Leonard
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Neville P.
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| This Meeting was called to order by |
Primavera
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| Representative Ryden |
Tyler
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Wist
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| This Report was prepared by |
Lontine
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| Julia Jackson |
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X = Present, E = Excused, A = Absent, * = Present after roll call
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| Bills Addressed: | Action Taken: | ||
| HB16-1204 HB16-1024 HB16-1179 HB16-1023 SB16-017 |
Postponed Indefinitely Postponed Indefinitely Postponed Indefinitely Postponed Indefinitely Postponed Indefinitely |
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01:32 PM -- HB16-1204
Representative Neville, sponsor, presented House Bill 16-1204 to the committee. This bill removes the restriction that exists under current law which prohibits a person with a concealed carry permit from carrying a concealed weapon on the property of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school.
01:37 PM -- Melanie Foster, representing herself, testified in support of the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
01:41 PM -- Mikey Benedick, representing himself, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
01:45 PM -- Nathan Marks, representing himself, testified in support of the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
01:49 PM -- Julie Meyers, representing the Colorado Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
01:54 PM -- Derek Anderson, representing himself as principal of Ridgeview Classical School, testified in support of the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
01:57 PM -- Katie Lyles, representing the Colorado Education Association, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
02:01 PM -- Dudley Brown, representing Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, testified in support of the bill.
02:06 PM -- Tom Mauser, representing himself, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
02:11 PM -- Jess Loban, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
02:13 PM -- Alana Smart, representing Colorado Faith Communities United to End Gun Violence, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members. She provided a handout (Attachment A).
16HouseState0307AttachA.pdf
02:20 PM -- Phil Ross, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
02:23 PM -- Jane Dougherty, representing herself, testified against the bill.
02:26 PM -- Michael Martinez, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
02:28 PM -- Helen Kamin, representing herself, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members. She provided additional written testimony (Attachment B).
16HouseState0307AttachB.pdf
02:33 PM -- Tina Francone, representing herself, testified in support of the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
02:37 PM -- Christine Jones, representing herself, testified against the bill.
02:39 PM -- Richard Turnquist, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
02:42 PM -- Jean Grattet, representing the League of Women Voters of Colorado, testified against the bill.
02:46 PM -- Robert Edmiston, representing the Firearms Coalition of Colorado, testified in support of the bill and provided a handout (Attachment C).
16HouseState0307AttachC.pdf
02:48 PM -- Eileen McCarron, representing herself, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
02:51 PM -- Chad Day, Yuma County Sheriff representing the County Sheriffs of Colorado, testified in support of the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
02:56 PM -- Ron Sloan, representing the Colorado Association of Chiefs of Police, testified against the bill.
03:00 PM -- Melissa Wickes, representing herself, testified against the bill.
03:05 PM -- Margaret Sims, representing herself, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
03:13 PM -- Myra Isenhart, representing herself, testified against the bill.
03:16 PM -- Ken Toltz, representing Safe Campus Colorado, testified against the bill.
03:18 PM -- Josie Brady and Adia Brown, representing Colorado Ceasefire Millenials, testified against the bill.
03:25 PM -- Tangi, Dorean, and Cassai Lancaster, representing themselves, testified against the bill. Ms. Lancaster provided additional written testimony against the bill (Attachment D).
16HouseState0307AttachD.pdf
03:29 PM -- Judi Ingelido, representing herself, testified against the bill.
03:33 PM -- Marilyn Hughes and Sherry Malloy, representing themselves, testified against the bill and House Bill 16-1024.
03:36 PM -- Kathleen Visovatti, representing herself, testified against the bill and Senate Bill 16-017.
03:40 PM -- John McDonald, representing himself, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
03:47 PM -- Terry Crook, representing herself, testified against the bill.
03:51 PM -- Alexandra Fickenscher, representing herself, testified against the bill.
03:53 PM -- Cheyne Cummins, representing herself, testified against the bill.
03:56 PM -- Maura Benedick, representing herself, testified against the bill.
03:59 PM -- Bruce Glenn, representing himself, testified against the bill.
04:01 PM -- Rod Roberts, representing himself, testified against the bill and other bills being considered by the committee.
04:06 PM -- Stephen Lee, representing himself, testified in support of the bill and in opposition to House Bill 16-1179.
04:11 PM
Representative Neville wrapped up his presentation of the bill.
04:13 PM
Representative Ryden reopened public testimony to allow Hannah Garelick, a CU Boulder student, to testify on House Bill 16-1023.
04:16 PM
Committee members commented on the bill.
| BILL: | HB16-1204 | |
| TIME: | 04:22:59 PM | |
| MOVED: | Neville P. | |
| MOTION: | Refer House Bill 16-1204 to the Committee on Appropriations. The motion failed on a vote of 4-5. | |
| SECONDED: | Humphrey | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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No
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Humphrey
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Yes
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Leonard
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Yes
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Neville P.
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Yes
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Primavera
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No
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Tyler
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No
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Wist
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Yes
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Lontine
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No
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Ryden
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No
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YES: 4 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL
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| BILL: | HB16-1204 | |
| TIME: | 04:24:59 PM | |
| MOVED: | Lontine | |
| MOTION: | Postpone House Bill 16-1204 indefinitely. The motion passed on a vote of 5-4. | |
| SECONDED: | Foote | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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Yes
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Humphrey
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No
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Leonard
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No
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Neville P.
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No
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Primavera
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Yes
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Tyler
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Yes
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Wist
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No
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Lontine
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Yes
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Ryden
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Yes
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Final YES: 5 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS
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04:25 PM -- HB16-1024
Representatives Saine and Humphrey, co-prime sponsors, presented House Bill 16-1024 to the committee. This bill repeals the prohibition on the sale, transfer, and possession of large-capacity ammunition magazines. It also repeals the requirement that a magazine manufactured in Colorado have a permanent stamp or marking indicating it was produced after July 1, 2013.
Committee members discussed the bill with Representative Humphrey.
04:34 PM -- Fredric Calhoun, representing himself, testified in support of the bill and provided a handout (Attachment E).
16HouseState0307AttachE.pdf
04:36 PM -- Jane Dougherty, representing herself, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
04:40 PM -- Lee Runyon, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
04:44 PM -- Tom Mauser, representing Colorado Ceasefire, testified against the bill.
04:47 PM -- James Bardwell, representing Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, testified in support of the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
04:51 PM -- Julie Meyers, representing Colorado Faith Communities United to End Gun Violence, testified against the bill.
04:54 PM -- Laura Carno, representing herself, testified in support of the bill.
04:56 PM -- Don Macalady, representing Hunters Against Gun Violence, testified against the bill.
04:59 PM -- Chad Day, Yuma County Sheriff representing the County Sheriffs of Colorado, testified in support of the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
05:05 PM -- Tom Sullivan, representing himself, testified against the bill.
05:08 PM -- Robert Edmiston, representing the Firearms Coalition of Colorado, testified in support of the bill.
05:12 PM -- Jacqui Shumway, representing the AMP-athy Project, testified against the bill.
05:14 PM -- Jess Loban, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
05:17 PM -- Michael McGuire, representing himself, testified against the bill.
05:21 PM -- Tina Francone, representing herself, testified in support of the bill.
05:24 PM -- Bruce Glenn, representing himself, testified against the bill.
05:27 PM -- Travis Couture-Lovelady, representing the National Rifle Association, testified in support of the bill.
05:30 PM -- Ann O'Brien, representing herself, testified against the bill.
05:32 PM -- Richard Turnquist, representing himself, testified in support of the bill and other bills being considered by the committee.
05:35 PM -- Phil Ross, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
05:38 PM -- Doug Burdette, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
05:43 PM -- Alan Franklin, representing Progress Now Colorado, testified against the bill.
05:45 PM -- Eileen McCarron, representing Colorado Ceasefire, testified against the bill.
05:47 PM -- David Kopel, representing the Independence Institute, testified in support of the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
05:54 PM
Representatives Saine and Humphrey wrapped up their presentation of the bill.
Committee members commented on the bill.
| BILL: | HB16-1024 | |
| TIME: | 06:01:09 PM | |
| MOVED: | Humphrey | |
| MOTION: | Refer House Bill 16-1024 to the Committee of the Whole. The motion failed on a vote of 4-5. | |
| SECONDED: | Neville P. | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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No
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Humphrey
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Yes
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Leonard
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Yes
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Neville P.
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Yes
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Primavera
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No
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Tyler
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No
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Wist
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Yes
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Lontine
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No
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Ryden
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No
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YES: 4 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL
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| BILL: | HB16-1024 | |
| TIME: | 06:01:32 PM | |
| MOVED: | Lontine | |
| MOTION: | Postpone House Bill 16-1024 indefinitely. The motion passed on a vote of 5-4. | |
| SECONDED: | Foote | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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Yes
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Humphrey
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No
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Leonard
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No
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Neville P.
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No
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Primavera
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Yes
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Tyler
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Yes
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Wist
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No
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Lontine
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Yes
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Ryden
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Yes
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Final YES: 5 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS
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06:02 PM -- HB16-1179
Representative Buck, sponsor, presented House Bill 16-1179 to the committee. This bill creates an exception to the crime of unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon when the person is on active duty and serving in the armed forces of the United States military, and the weapon in question was a concealed handgun.
Representative Buck also discussed amendment L.001 (Attachment F) with the committee.
16HouseState0307AttachF.pdf
06:14 PM -- George Brauchler, 18th Judicial District Attorney, testified in support of the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
06:23 PM -- Ron Sloan, representing the Colorado Association of Chiefs of Police, testified against the bill, noting that the chiefs have not taken a position on amendment L.001.
06:28 PM -- Peg Ackerman and Sheriff Chad Day, representing the County Sheriffs of Colorado, testified on the bill. Sheriff Day noted that the sheriffs have not taken a position on amendment L.001.
06:32 PM -- Jessica Pettigrew, representing herself, testified against the bill. She read written testimony from Samuel Wardell (Attachment G). Ms. Pettigrew responded to questions from committee members.
16HouseState0307AttachG.pdf
06:36 PM -- Phil Ross, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
06:41 PM -- Jim Engelking, representing himself, testified against the bill, noting that he was not prepared to speak to amendment L.001.
06:46 PM -- James Bardwell, representing Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, testified in support of the bill.
06:48 PM -- Lydia Waligorski, representing the Colorado Coalition Against Domestic Violence, testified on the bill, noting that she does not have a position on amendment L.001.
06:49 PM -- Jess Loban, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
06:52 PM -- Julie Meyers read a statement from Amy Petre-Hill against the bill.
06:54 PM -- Robert Edmiston, representing the Firearms Coalition of Colorado, testified in support of the bill.
06:56 PM -- Eileen McCarron, representing Colorado Ceasefire, testified against the bill and provided a handout (Attachment H).
16HouseState0307AttachH.pdf
07:00 PM -- David Kopel, representing the Independence Institute, testified in support of the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
07:03 PM -- Jacqui Shumway, representing herself, testified against the bill.
07:05 PM -- Sophia San Miguel, representing herself, testified in support of the bill.
07:08 PM -- Jean Grattet, representing the League of Women Voters of Colorado, testified against the bill.
07:11 PM -- Michael McGuire, representing himself, testified against the bill.
07:13 PM -- Bruce Glenn, representing himself, testified against the bill.
07:15 PM -- Travis Young, representing himself, testified on the bill.
07:17 PM
The committee recessed.
07:18 PM
The committee reconvened.
| BILL: | HB16-1179 | |
| TIME: | 07:18:42 PM | |
| MOVED: | Humphrey | |
| MOTION: | Adopt amendment L.001 (Attachment F) to House Bill 16-1179. The motion failed on a vote of 4-5. | |
| SECONDED: | Neville P. | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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No
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Humphrey
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Yes
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Leonard
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Yes
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Neville P.
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Yes
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Primavera
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No
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Tyler
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No
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Wist
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Yes
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Lontine
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No
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Ryden
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No
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YES: 4 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL
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07:21 PM
Representative Buck wrapped up her presentation of the bill.
| BILL: | HB16-1179 | |
| TIME: | 07:22:40 PM | |
| MOVED: | Neville P. | |
| MOTION: | Refer House Bill 16-1179 to the Committee of the Whole. The motion failed on a vote of 4-5. | |
| SECONDED: | Humphrey | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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No
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Humphrey
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Yes
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Leonard
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Yes
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Neville P.
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Yes
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Primavera
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No
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Tyler
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No
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Wist
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Yes
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Lontine
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No
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Ryden
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No
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YES: 4 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL
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| BILL: | HB16-1179 | |
| TIME: | 07:23:13 PM | |
| MOVED: | Lontine | |
| MOTION: | Postpone House Bill 16-1179 indefinitely. The motion passed on a vote of 5-4. | |
| SECONDED: | Foote | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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Yes
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Humphrey
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No
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Leonard
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No
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Neville P.
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No
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Primavera
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Yes
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Tyler
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Yes
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Wist
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No
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Lontine
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Yes
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Ryden
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Yes
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Final YES: 5 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS
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07:24 PM -- HB16-1023
The committee recessed.
07:27 PM
The committee reconvened.
Representative Everett, sponsor, presented House Bill 16-1023 to the committee. This bill adds a place of business to the locations that may be defended with deadly physical force if an owner, manager, or employee reasonably believes that the intruder is committing, has committed, or intends to commit a crime other than the unlawful entry and that the intruder might use physical force against the occupant. The bill specifies that an owner, manager, or employee of a business is immune from criminal prosecution and civil liability for defending a place of business using deadly physical force.
Committee members discussed the bill with Representative Everett.
07:32 PM -- James Bardwell, representing Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, testified in support of the bill and Senate Bill 16-017.
07:36 PM -- Ron Sloan, representing the Colorado Association of Chiefs of Police, testified against the bill and SB 16-017. He responded to questions from committee members.
07:38 PM -- Chad Day, Yuma County Sheriff representing the County Sheriffs of Colorado, testified in support of the bill and SB 16-017.
07:40 PM -- Gene Drumm, representing Colorado Faith Communities United to End Gun Violence, testified against the bill and SB 16-017.
07:42 PM -- Robert Edmiston, representing the Firearms Coalition of Colorado, testified in support of the bill and SB 16-017.
07:46 PM -- Eileen McCarron, representing Colorado Ceasefire, testified against the bill.
07:48 PM -- Tina Francone, representing herself, testified in support of the bill and SB 16-017.
07:51 PM -- Jacqui Shumway, representing herself, testified against the bill.
07:55 PM -- Lydia Waligorski, representing the Colorado Coalition Against Domestic Violence, testified against the bill and SB 16-017.
07:59 PM -- Jean Grattet, representing the League of Women Voters of Colorado, testified against the bill and SB 16-017.
08:03 PM -- Michael McGuire, representing himself, testified against the bill and SB 16-017. He provided handouts (Attachments I and J).
16HouseState0307AttachI.pdf 16HouseState0307AttachJ.pdf
08:07 PM -- Julie Meyers read testimony opposing the bill from Mary Parker (Attachment K).
16HouseState0307AttachK.pdf
08:10 PM -- Jacqui Shumway, representing Colorado Ceasefire, testified against SB 16-017.
08:12 PM -- Deronn Turner, representing Moms Demand Action, testified against the bill and SB 16-017.
08:17 PM
Representative Everett wrapped up his presentation of the bill.
| BILL: | HB16-1023 | |
| TIME: | 08:20:08 PM | |
| MOVED: | Neville P. | |
| MOTION: | Refer House Bill 16-1023 to the Committee of the Whole. The motion failed on a vote of 4-5. | |
| SECONDED: | Leonard | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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No
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Humphrey
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Yes
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Leonard
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Yes
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Neville P.
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Yes
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Primavera
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No
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Tyler
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No
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Wist
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Yes
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Lontine
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No
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Ryden
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No
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YES: 4 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL
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| BILL: | HB16-1023 | |
| TIME: | 08:22:06 PM | |
| MOVED: | Lontine | |
| MOTION: | Postpone House Bill 16-1023 indefinitely. The motion passed on a vote of 5-4. | |
| SECONDED: | Foote | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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Yes
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Humphrey
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No
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Leonard
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No
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Neville P.
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No
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Primavera
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Yes
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Tyler
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Yes
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Wist
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No
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Lontine
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Yes
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Ryden
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Yes
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Final YES: 5 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS
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08:22 PM -- SB16-017
Representative Neville, sponsor, presented Senate Bill 16-017 to the committee. Current law prohibits both carrying a concealed weapon without a permit and carrying a weapon on school, college, or university grounds with certain exceptions. This reengrossed bill expands those exceptions to include any person who is at least 21 years of age and who may legally possess a handgun under federal and Colorado law. Under Senate Bill 16-017, any person who may legally possess a handgun and who carries a concealed handgun has the same rights and is subject to the same limitations as a person with a concealed handgun permit.
A number of witnesses testified for and against the bill during the hearing for House Bill 16-1023.
08:26 PM -- Eleanor Cabell, representing herself, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
08:30 PM -- Jess Loban, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
08:31 PM -- Tom Sullivan, representing himself, testified against the bill.
08:33 PM -- Erin DaCosta, representing herself, testified against the bill.
08:37 PM -- Dawn Reinfeld, representing herself, testified against the bill.
08:41 PM -- Don Macalady, representing himself, testified against the bill and provided a written copy of his testimony (Attachment L).
16HouseState0307AttachL.pdf
08:43 PM -- Jessica Pettigrew, representing herself, testified against the bill and responded to questions from committee members.
08:47 PM -- Tina Francone, representing herself, testified in support of the bill.
08:48 PM
Representative Neville wrapped up his presentation of the bill.
| BILL: | SB16-017 | |
| TIME: | 08:50:10 PM | |
| MOVED: | Neville P. | |
| MOTION: | Refer Senate Bill 16-017 to the Committee on Appropriations. The motion failed on a vote of 4-5. | |
| SECONDED: | Humphrey | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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No
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Humphrey
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Yes
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Leonard
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Yes
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Neville P.
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Yes
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Primavera
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No
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Tyler
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No
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Wist
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Yes
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Lontine
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No
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Ryden
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No
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YES: 4 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL
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| BILL: | SB16-017 | |
| TIME: | 08:50:40 PM | |
| MOVED: | Lontine | |
| MOTION: | Postpone Senate Bill 16-017 indefinitely. The motion passed on a vote of 5-4. | |
| SECONDED: | Foote | |
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VOTE
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Foote
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Yes
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Humphrey
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No
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Leonard
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No
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Neville P.
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No
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Primavera
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Yes
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Tyler
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Yes
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Wist
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No
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Lontine
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Yes
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Ryden
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Yes
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Final YES: 5 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS
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08:51 PM
The committee adjourned.