J_LC_2023A 08/31/2023 09:21:04 AM Committee Summary PUBLICSTAFF SUMMARY OF MEETINGJOINT COMMITTEE COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL Date 08/31/2023 Attendance Amabile X Armagost X Coleman * deGruy Kennedy X Duran X Gardner X Hansen X Hartsook X Jodeh X Lukens X Lundeen X Lynch X Moreno X Simpson X Smallwood X Winter F. X McCluskie * Fenberg X Time 09:21:04 AM to 11:58:05 AM Place Old Supreme Court This Meeting was called to order by Fenberg This Report was prepared by Rachel Kurtz-Phelan Hearing Items Action Taken hIntroductory Remarks Committee Discussion Only hReview of Ballot Analysis: Reduce Property Taxes and Retain State Revenue Committee Discussion Only hReview of Ballot Analysis: Retain Nicotine Tax Revenue in Excess of Blue Book Estimate Committee Discussion Only Introductory Remarks - Committee Discussion Only 09:22:08 AM Natalie Castle, Director of Legislative Council Staff, gave introductory remarks of the blue book. Review of Ballot Analysis: Reduce Property Taxes and Retain State Revenue - Committee Discussion Only Attachment Tag File Name Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/6D92BF3B3B3B...$File/Attachment A.pdf?OpenElement Attachment A.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/4479EE1A65AE...$File/Attachment B.pdf?OpenElement Attachment B.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/1B940941DA5D...$File/Attachment C.pdf?OpenElement Attachment C.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/73364C40CFB3...$File/Attachment D.pdf?OpenElement Attachment D.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/774A60CC2F97...$File/Attachment E.pdf?OpenElement Attachment E.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/3036797A57C1...$File/Attachment F.pdf?OpenElement Attachment F.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/39A7C9C8A8BD...$File/Attachment G.pdf?OpenElement Attachment G.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/EE014DBF5C0C...$File/Attachment H.pdf?OpenElement Attachment H.pdf 09:32:06 AM Anna Gerstle, Legislative Council Staff, gave a presentation of Proposition HH. 09:39:55 AM Erin Meschke, representing themself, testified. Commissioner Dick Elsner, representing themself, testified. Natalie Meaten, representing themself, testified. Jody Nickerson, representing themself, testified. Chris Stiffler, representing themself, testified. Brandon Work, representing themself, testified. Steve O'Dorisio representing Adams County, testified. 10:01:22 AM Anna Gerstle explained Amendment 8 (Attachment A). 10:04:27 AM Motion Move Amendment 8 (Attachment A) Moved deGruy Kennedy Seconded Amabile Yes Armagost Yes Coleman Yes deGruy Kennedy Yes Duran Yes Gardner Yes Hansen Yes Hartsook Yes Jodeh Yes Lukens Yes Lundeen Yes Lynch Yes Moreno Yes Simpson Yes Smallwood Yes Winter F. Yes McCluskie Yes Fenberg Yes YES: 18 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 10:05:26 AM Senator Lundeen explained Amendment 6 (Attachment B). 10:06:29 AM The committee discussed Amendment 6 10:15:13 AM Motion Move Amendment 6 (Attachment B) Moved Lundeen Seconded Amabile No Armagost Yes Coleman No deGruy Kennedy No Duran No Gardner Yes Hansen No Hartsook Yes Jodeh No Lukens No Lundeen Yes Lynch Yes Moreno No Simpson Yes Smallwood Yes Winter F. No McCluskie No Fenberg No YES: 7 NO: 11 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL 10:16:13 AM Senate Lundeen explained Amendment 3 (Attachment C). 10:16:31 AM The committee discussed Amendment 3. 10:19:22 AM Motion Move Amendment 3 (Attachment C) Moved Lundeen Seconded Amabile No Armagost Yes Coleman No deGruy Kennedy No Duran No Gardner Yes Hansen No Hartsook Yes Jodeh No Lukens No Lundeen Yes Lynch Yes Moreno No Simpson Yes Smallwood Yes Winter F. No McCluskie No Fenberg No YES: 7 NO: 11 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL 10:20:01 AM Senator Lundeen explained Amendment 5 (Attachment D). 10:22:06 AM The committee discussed Amendment 5. 10:28:53 AM Anna Gerstle and Greg Sobetski, representing Legislative Council Staff, discussed Amendment 5. 10:32:00 AM The committee continued to discuss Amendment 5. 10:33:21 AM Motion Move Amendment 5 (Attachment D). Moved Lundeen Seconded Amabile No Armagost Yes Coleman No deGruy Kennedy No Duran No Gardner Yes Hansen No Hartsook Yes Jodeh No Lukens No Lundeen Yes Lynch Yes Moreno No Simpson Yes Smallwood Yes Winter F. No McCluskie No Fenberg No YES: 7 NO: 11 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL 10:34:34 AM Senator Gardner explained Amendment 7 (Attachment E). 10:36:51 AM The committee discussed Amendment 7. 10:43:51 AM Motion Move Amendment 7 (Attachment E). Moved Gardner Seconded Amabile No Armagost Yes Coleman No deGruy Kennedy No Duran No Gardner Yes Hansen No Hartsook Yes Jodeh No Lukens No Lundeen Yes Lynch Yes Moreno No Simpson Yes Smallwood Yes Winter F. No McCluskie No Fenberg No YES: 7 NO: 11 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL 10:44:36 AM Senator Gardner explained Amendment 1 (Attachment F). 10:45:24 AM The committee discussed Amendment 1. 10:53:06 AM Motion Move Amendment 1 (Attachment F). Moved Gardner Seconded Amabile No Armagost Yes Coleman No deGruy Kennedy No Duran No Gardner Yes Hansen No Hartsook Yes Jodeh No Lukens No Lundeen Yes Lynch Yes Moreno No Simpson Yes Smallwood Yes Winter F. No McCluskie No Fenberg No YES: 7 NO: 11 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL 10:54:57 AM Senator Simpson explained Amendment 2 (Attachment G). 10:55:56 AM Motion Move Amendment 2 (Attachment G). Moved Simpson Seconded Amabile No Armagost Yes Coleman No deGruy Kennedy No Duran No Gardner Yes Hansen No Hartsook Yes Jodeh No Lukens No Lundeen Yes Lynch Yes Moreno Yes Simpson Yes Smallwood Excused Winter F. No McCluskie No Fenberg No YES: 7 NO: 10 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL 10:58:12 AM Senator Simpson explained Amendment 4 (Attachment H). 10:58:54 AM The committee discussed Amendment 4. 11:01:37 AM Motion Move Amendment 4 (Attachment H). Moved Simpson Seconded Amabile No Armagost Yes Coleman No deGruy Kennedy No Duran No Gardner Yes Hansen No Hartsook Yes Jodeh No Lukens No Lundeen Yes Lynch Yes Moreno No Simpson Yes Smallwood Excused Winter F. No McCluskie No Fenberg No YES: 6 NO: 11 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL Review of Ballot Analysis: Retain Nicotine Tax Revenue in Excess of Blue Book Estimate - Committee Discussion Only Attachment Tag File Name Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/F2770A74ADD0...$File/Attachment I.pdf?OpenElement Attachment I.pdf 11:02:44 AM The committee went on recess. 11:45:25 AM The committee came back to order. 11:45:34 AM Elizabeth Ramey, Legislative Council Staff, presented proposition II to the committee. 11:53:10 AM Speaker McCluskie explained Amendment 1 (Attachment I). 11:56:46 AM Motion Move Amendment 1 (Attachment I) Moved McCluskie Seconded Amabile Yes Armagost Yes Coleman Yes deGruy Kennedy Yes Duran Yes Gardner No Hansen Yes Hartsook Yes Jodeh Yes Lukens Yes Lundeen No Lynch Yes Moreno Yes Simpson Yes Smallwood No Winter F. Yes McCluskie Yes Fenberg Yes YES: 15 NO: 3 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 11:58:05 AM The committee adjourned.